This is a saddle I bought to show in and never saw the show ring. 16" seat, skirt is about 28" long and I believe these are full quarter horse bars. Beautiful saddle for an affordable price. Made by Corriente, it has "Showman Handmade Saddle" as the maker name. One very slight flaw on the horn but not noticeable to a judge. Spotless, no marks or dirt and stored covered at all times. email responses to ad prefered over phone calls.