A well used classic-looking 17 3/4" (measured correctly) saddle in great condition. Rich dark brown in color. No knee rolls. It has been cleaned every time I've used it for the past three years that I've owned it. There is stitching wear between the seat and the pommel, which was present when I purchased it. This, however, does not at all effect the ride. I don't ride much anymore and it's my second saddle. Would make an excellent schooling saddle - no knee rolls really helps make a good foundation out of your legs. I have my old child size stirrup leathers with adult sized irons on it at the moment. They could be included for an extra $50. Willing to be somewhat flexible on the price. I'm sad to see this go.