This used black leather Collegiate dressage saddle is in great condition and has been regularly conditioned and cleaned. The seat is 17" and the flaps are 16.5" with a medium width tree. The only flaw is a cosmetic scratch on the seat which cannot be seen while riding (see pictures). The black leather and irons are new and allow you to begin riding in the saddle right away! This beautiful saddle would be great for showing but still appropriate to school in as it is super comfortable! Only selling because it does not fit my new horse.