17.5 seat size, in a rich havana that looks absolutely gorgeous in person. This if definitely one of my favorite saddles and I have had it for a long time and im sad to let it go but i don't jump any more... It does have some very slight wear marks that are common in brown saddles but nothing noticeable when riding. Great quality saddle and great leather! This is a great deal on a very nice saddle! Will haggle price!