This Simco Rusty Taylor Gaited saddle has never been on a horse. We bought 2 of them and have never used this one. It is black with limited tooling. 17in seat,silver fittings. It is a comfortable saddle to ride in. We use the other one on a Missouri Fox Trotter. Selling for what I paid for it. It has gone up in price since I bought mine. Buyer to pay shipping.