I HAVE A CIRCLE "A" BLACK ARABIAN SADDLE ; ROUND SKIRT.25 INCHES OR SO; OLDER IN WORKING ORDER, TREE SOLID AS WELL IS HORN ; THIS SADDLE HAS A HEAVY SOLID BASE, 26 LBS, SADDLE IS USEABLE ,BUT HAS A SEWN AREA ,(SEE PIC) ON FENDER, BY STIRRUP, IT HAS BEEN REPAIRED, IVE USED IT THAT WAY , BUT IT WILL NEED TO BE REPAIRED AGAIN OR HAVE A NEW FENDERS PUT ON, AT SOME POINT. FLEECE IN VERY GOOD SHAPE, FOR A OLDER SADDLE, THIS SADDLE HAS BEEN CLEANED AND OILED , STIRUPS ARE REAL HEAVY THEM SELVES AND NICE AND WIDE, SPLIT SEEM IN LEATHER IN AREA BALL FOOT AREA . WEAR THIS WOULD BE NORMAL FOR SADDLES AGE. THIS IS AN ARABIAN TREE WHICH HAS A 6.3/4 WIDE GULLET /BARS( SEE PIC) ; SEE PICS ON MY ARAB MARE; SHE IS OVER WEIGHT AND MUTTEN WITHERED; HOPE PIC HELPS.THIS TYPE OF SADDLE WORKS WELL ON GAITED FATTYS TOO; SHORT-BACKED ANIMALS OTHER SADDLES SEMI GULLETS /BARS ,ARE 6.5 INCHES; THAT DONT FIT ARABS; AND FULL BARS ARE 7 INCHES THIS TYPE USED ON WIDE QUARTERS TYPE. IT WILL NEED A OFF STRAP, TO MAKE IT ABLE TO BE ATTACHED TO YOUR GIRTH, THE ONE IT CAME WITH,WAS WORN ,UNSAFE. WELL USED BUT A GREAT STARTER SADDLE OR SOMEONES TRAIL SADDLE, NOT IN SHOW SHAPE, THIS IS A USED SADDLE SO THINGS DONT LOOK NEW. PLEASE SEE ALL PICS AS I DONT NEED SADDLE BACK. I AM MORE THAN HAPPY TO HELP YOU , IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, ON THIS ITEM PAD NOT INCLUDED, ONLY FOR VISUAL SIGHT.ITS A 30X30 INCH THIS WILL BE INSURED AND A SIGNED POSTAL SO IT GETS THERE