great starter saddle!!!great starter saddle.. comes with dover stirrup leathers also..still in good condition. does have a few scratches and wear and tear but nothing that couldn't be easily covered up. leather is still in great condition no cracks...nothing major wrong with it. has just been used. in very good riding shape. and would be great for local, schooling, or small shows, or everyday or training riding. also have a courbette leather 52" girth can be sold with or without.. they sell for 100+ new.. asking 75. has been used very little