PRICE REDUCED!!!!! I have a nearly new black DownUnder saddle. I measured it at 18" per the company website. This equates to a 16" western. You will enjoy the close contact of an English saddle with the security of the poleys to keep you in place. I dearly love this saddle, but it doesn't fit my horse. I have several pictures I can email. Snap up this saddle and hit the trail!