this handsome,awesome,beginners deluxe is BIG JOHN,not too big though,hes the perfect size!!!!!,not as thick built as most drafts,superb manners,great personality,good for the whole family to ride and TOTALLY husband safe,utd on everything,100s of trail miles already behind him,always such a gentleman,bring the trailer with you because you cant help but love him!!!!!check this site out and you will see,A STEP ABOVE STABLES,is where you should be,ALL HORSES GUARANTEED,payment plans offered,credit cards accepted,and we have a delivery service,we also offer free board,lessons,and trail rides to ensure the rider horse bond,we have numerous references if needed and we ship anywhere,we sell over 100 horses per year,come see the difference and help us make this the best year ever!!!! THIS GUY IS MORE THAN GOOD ENOUGH TO SHIP OVER THE INTERNET.