See our consignment tack at www.divatack.com. Since this treeless saddle is built differently from a dressage saddle, the measurements don't exactly coincide. A measurement taken from the middle of the front of the pommel to the middle of the back of the cantle is 18.5". The flap measures 16.5" from the stirrup bar, but the stirrup bar is set higher than on the typical dressage saddle. From the bottom of the skirt to the bottom of the flap is 13". Stamp reads CBP267A. According to the measurements and the stamp, this saddle is classified as a petite seat with a short flap. These are expensive saddles, but this one is priced to sell at $900 (and it is in excellent condition)! 7-day saddle trial is allowed. Call DivaTack Consignment at 800-996-4826 or see saddle on our website at www.divatack.com.