This Bob Marshall Circle Y saddle is barely even been rode. It sits great and rides good I bought it for my 1D/IPRA 2011 Qualifier horse that has a weird back and it fits him perfectly, it just is too big for me. I measured it the BM way! I was told not to get a Circle Y, but I like the position you sit in it, it keeps you balenced and you feet stay right where they should and it is so comfortable. Must sell so I can get a smaller one!