Motivated seller, make offer! This saddle is like new, only an outdated style. Would make wonderful training saddle. Courbette Dressage saddle, 17" seat, French D II, made in Germany. I purchased this saddle 17 years ago. I rode in it all of 10 times. I got pregnant with twins. It has been stored in my house since then. I now ride huntseat, so I don't need it. It is in excellent shape. It is not even broken in. The leather needs some conditioning, which I will do, but will probably need more when you get it. Minor stains on bottom of saddle. The billets are the short billets, needing a regular girth, flocked panels. This saddle will make a wonderful training saddle. The tree width measures 5" at the gullet, start of the panels, and 6" at the felt buttons. 2 tone brown.