17.5 Medium tree. This saddle is in excellent condition for all it has been through. I bought it used 6 years ago and it looks just as good as when I first saw it. Very durable and can handle a lot. It is a beautiful, dark, rich, brown color with suede knee rolls. Very comfortable to ride in, and very secure. I have used it for both flat work and jumping and works well for both. It only has a few marks on it, a recent nibble from mice on the cantle, very small and not noticeable, and a spot on the seat from where it got rained on. Definitely nice enough to compete with, I have used it for my last 2 show seasons. The only reason I am selling it is because I need a longer flap. The price is negotiable, please e-mail for additional information and/or pictures.