This is a very clean, very well made, and very sturdy saddle. Very comfortable! Purchased new for over $2,000. It is a very high end Ovation/Ruiz Diaz. From my understanding, Ruiz Diaz was a co-maker of pessoa, so this saddle has many qualities of a pessoa saddle, but at a more affordable price. I have used it for everything, from flat, jumping, eventing, and hunter paces/trails. Puts me in a great position over fences and flat. Its design lets you sit in it a long time without getting uncomfortable. Is a 17.5 but will fit a 17 rider fine Very sad to part with this saddle, but unfortunately does not fit my body well anymore.