Used Piland Ranch Cutter. 16.5" Seat, with Ralph Shimon in-skirt 3-way rigging. Comes with back cinch. I bought in 2010 from Tim Piland, who had gotten it back on trade and had re-fleeced the bottom, re-wrapped the horn and checked everything over on it. Truly an awesome versatility / cowhorse saddle. Well used, but everything on it is in perfect working order. Email me with questions.