Black Coventry Dressage saddle- measures 16.5 in the seat, flap is right at 17" when measured from the top of the stirrup bar. Good saddle to use for lessons or schooling. Dot to dot it measures just under 5". Barely used billets, saddle flaps are essentially new as well. Front blocks. Not sure of the year made but looks to be older with replaced pieces (flaps and billets.) Email for more pictures or any questions.