This is a beautiful Pioneer brand Big Horn saddle. 14" seat from both the base of the horn and the closest part of the pomel. The tooling on this saddle is very detailed. I cleaned it with a really good leather conditioner. All of the buckstitching appears to be intact with no missing spots. Fleece is good and all there. Only thing I can think of that should be meantioned is the flap of the back of the seat does move since its been picked up from there so often from there. Its not the tree, just the flap. Ships in lower US for $32.