14" and I am asking $1350 (lowest I can go). It has some scratches from a horse falling but with a good oiling it would hardly be noticeable. Also has some stitching that came undone a week after I had the saddle (bought from BM) and hasn't further come undone. 8" leg opening. Saddle is like new and I great condition other then those two minor things. Buyer pays shipping. (Alum stirrups not included, will be shipped with original stirrups)